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Last post 08-22-2006, 10:21 by admin. 39 replies.
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  •  08-22-2006, 10:21 1082 in reply to 1081

    Re: Raw milling

    I agree with you that the high quartz content above three per cent over 45 micron is the root of the problem. The new burner and the improved coal dosing can only be advantages but they are unlikely to solve this problem of low reactivity of the kiln feed. There are many white cement factories that are operating with very high silica sand additions. These would be the best references. My suggestion of a remedy would be to introduce duplex grinding where the rejects from the raw mill classifer are separately ground and reintroduced to the raw mix. This is a radical solution and requires process modifications to introduce, however it will solve the problem.
  •  08-22-2006, 10:21 1083 in reply to 1082

    Raw milling Question 9

    Do you think that pre-dedusting in a raw mill circuit by means of cyclone with a separation efficiency of 91-93 will have negative influence on the raw mill bag filter or ESP in regard to the fact that after pre-dedusting only rather fine grain and rather low quantity of dust will enter the filter? Could it become difficult to clean the bags due to fine dust getting deeper into the pores of the filter bag and could the fine dust have negative influence on the ESP?
  •  08-22-2006, 10:21 1084 in reply to 1083

    Re: Raw milling

    I cannot foresee that reduces the load of dust entering a filter will have any detrimental effect on its performance. Certainly no problem with an ESP. Your point regarding fine dust blinding the cloth of fabric filters maybe valid, but I would be surprised.
  •  08-22-2006, 10:21 1085 in reply to 1084

    Raw milling Question 10

    What is the best method to charge a ball mill ?
  •  08-22-2006, 10:21 1086 in reply to 1085

    Re: Raw milling

    The normal method to charge balls into the ball mill is to position the doors at the top of the mill and remove them. Then to pour the barrels of grinding balls into the mill using an overhead crane. The exact grading of media required is identified by performing an axial test taking samples along the axis of mill. You want the desired fineness to be reached at the exit of the mill and adjust the ball grading to achieve this. For a new mill you need to rely on the experience of the commissioning engineer to determine the initial ball grading. It is normal practice to begin commissioning with only 65 per cent of the balls in the mill and bring this up to target by additions with monitoring between additions by axial testing.
  •  08-22-2006, 10:21 1087 in reply to 1086

    Raw milling Question 11

    We are analysing particle size distribution of raw meal, coal mill product and cement mill product through CELAS PSA having facility to determine 0.7to 400 micron.
    Q1. what is the best particle distribution (on various micron sizes) of raw mill in terms of best mill performance, burnability and kiln performance and which plant in the world is producing?
    Q2. what is the best particle distribution( on various micron sizes) of coal mill in terms of best mill & kiln performance? Our coal ash is 28. Q3. what is the best particle distribution( on various micron sizes)of cement mill product to have optimum power consumption, best strength &good performance in concrete.
  •  08-22-2006, 10:21 1088 in reply to 1087

    Re: Raw milling

    There is no straight-forward answer to your questions. For raw mix the optimum particle size distribution depends on the mineral composition of your raw materials. If you have a high content of quartz then you must have a very tight fine particle size distribution with low content of oversize particles where the quartz will concentrate. On the other hand with a homogenous raw mix with no quartz it is not beneficial to have too small a particle size distribution as this will increase the dust losses from the top stage of the preheater. Similarly with coal there is no hard and fast rule. It is said that the 90 micron residue should not be more than 50 per cent of the volatile content of the coal. Increasing the fineness beyond that is counter-productive. For cement the optimum particle size distribution depends on the cement performance characteristics that your customers have come to expect. Ring formation is caused by the formation of liquids in the kiln at a particular position. These penetrate the refractory lining and cause a localised thickening of the coating. Fe2O3 can be a cause of these problems and I am not surprised that raising the alumina modulus has solved the problem. Many cement factories operate with higher alumina modulus than1.7 and I would recommend keeping the kiln feed mix design with the higher alumina modulus. A snowman is the formation of a large build-up on the first grate of the cooler where the clinker falls from the kiln rather than a build-up in the kiln.
  •  08-22-2006, 10:21 1089 in reply to 1088

    Raw milling Question 12

    I would like to know how to estimate the quantity of grinding media of each size required for a ball mill using the data; mill size, number of chambers and type of material to be ground. Kindly explain me what formula is to be used.
  •  08-22-2006, 10:21 1090 in reply to 1089

    Re: Raw milling

    The total quantity of media required for each chamber is determined by calculating the internal volume of the chambers. A rule of thumb is to change the first chamber to 30 per cent of this volume and the second chamber to 27 per cent. You can use 4.6t/m3 as the density of grinding media. As for the individual ball size gradings this has to be determined by conducting a series of axial tests in the mill while you are building up the media charge.
  •  08-22-2006, 10:21 1091 in reply to 1090

    Raw milling Question 13

    I am working in a grinding unit having a vertical roller mill for slag grinding (UBE VRM). Initially this mill is for only slag grinding but we are also able grind clinker. We are getting clinker from various sources. Because of this we are getting different output & power consumption. I want to ask you is this normal to get different output & power consumption? How much influence does the wear rate of table & rollers have on output & power consumption. Also I want to know what are ways to increase the output of the vertical roller mill.
  •  08-22-2006, 10:21 1092 in reply to 1091

    Re: Raw milling

    It is normal to get different outputs from the mill with materials from different sources. This will depend on the hardness of individual materials. There are ways to increase the output from a vertical mill. These involved justments to the separator and the airflow through the mill. A number of case studies have been reported by Siam Cement where major increases in output were achieved by these means.
  •  08-22-2006, 10:21 1093 in reply to 1092

    Raw milling Question 14

    Are there any recognised ways to increase raw mill production?
  •  08-22-2006, 10:21 1094 in reply to 1093

    Re: Raw milling

    The first stage is to maximise the output with the existing mill. You should conduct axial tests and recirculating load tests to make sure that the ball charge and lining are optimal. The next stage might be to conduct trials with grinding aids to try to boost the output of the mill by up to 15 per cent. Beyond that you will need to consider modifications to the milling circuit by adding further equipment. There are two options to do that: (i) add a pregrinding facility such as a hammer mill or roll press, or (ii) add a regrind mill. Adding further equipment will be significantly more expensive than introducing grinding aids but has the potential to boost the output to higher levels.
  •  08-22-2006, 10:21 1095 in reply to 1094

    Raw milling Question 15

    Our plant has four cement mills (closed circuit with first generation separator) - we use about 20 per cent slag, the output is 100tph ,the dimension of every mill is 15.5 x 4.4, the liners in the first chamber are lifting and in second chamber classifier. Are there any ways to increase mill production? How about for a raw mill?
  •  08-22-2006, 10:21 1096 in reply to 1095

    Re: Raw milling

    There are numerous ways to increase the production from your cement mills. In the short term use of grinding aids combined with optimisation of the ball charge and drafting would be the best method. Longer term (and at greater cost) you could upgrade the separators to third generation or install a roll press to pre-crush the clinker ahead of the mills. With regard to raw mills you can again use grinding aids or install pre-grinding equipment.
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