lalbatros
138 posts
TimePosted 11/06/2008 12:27:06
lalbatros says

form of MgO in clinker, relation to Bogue relations

Hello, I am just cleaning up some worksheets that use different relations for LSF, Liquid, c3s, ...

I am now curious about how MgO could be introduced in the Bogue relations.

Should we simply assume that MgO can perfectly substitute CaO at least below some limit?

Would some m3s and m2s compounds be present in the same proportions as c3 and c2s?

Some good readings?

Thanks

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Michael Clark
312 posts
TimePosted 11/06/2008 19:58:11

Re: form of MgO in clinker, relation to Bogue relations

MgO enters into solid solution in all the cement clinker minerals to different degrees. In these solid solutions it essentially substitutes for CaO. The convention is that up to 2% MgO can be accommodated in solid solution in the clinker minerals. Beyond 2% there is the likelihood that free MgO will be present and then there is the possibility of long-term durability problems due to expansion when the cement is used in concrete.

Dr Michael Clark

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lalbatros
138 posts
TimePosted 12/06/2008 05:58:19
lalbatros says

Re: form of MgO in clinker, relation to Bogue relations

Thanks Michael,

Would it mean that in the Bogue formula CaO has to be replaced by (CaO+56*MgO/40) with an ad-hoc correction on the weight of each phase?

Also, can we assume that MgO is uniformly distributed in the four phases, in proportion of the CaO in these phases?

Of course we know that the Bogue formulas are the result of a mass balance assuming a 4 elements ==> 4 components mapping. We know also that this assumption is generally not true physically.

But, generally speaking, would you prefer to stick to the basic version of the Bogue formula, or do you think it makes some sense to correct them for various effects like MgO, SO3, free lime, ... ? In other words, is there some useful physics in these corrections, or is reality simply more subtile?

Thanks again

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Michael Clark
312 posts
TimePosted 12/06/2008 10:01:59

Re: form of MgO in clinker, relation to Bogue relations

Yes, up to a maximum of 2% MgO in clinker. The MgO does not partition equally between the clinker mineral phases. There is the greatest solid solubility in the C4AF phase, with the lowest in the C2S phase. The 2% overall limit is a compromise value taking these differing solid solubilities into account.

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